Let’s Do The Math – Numerous Mandalay Bay Anomalies Remind Us Of This One Blunt Truth: ‘Dead Patsy’s Tell No Tales’
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4 Oct 2017
“Keep in mind, the definition of a false flag does not mean that the incident never happened. It means blame is being shifted to someone else for the atrocity. False flag operations are covert operations conducted by governments, corporations, or other organizations, which are designed to deceive the public in such a way that the operations appear as if they are being carried out by other entities.” Mac Slavo – SHTFPlan
Let’s Do the Math.
More and more patriots are awakening and are no longer willing to accept the pronouncements of government officials and the slimestream media at face value. So it is with the latest shooting in Vegas, by the lone gunman of the week. Other awakened patriots are already writing about the paucity of evidence for nearly 600 dead and wounded and the possibility of crisis actors being used.
Note the distance from Hotel to Concert Area in the above photo
More will leak out in the coming days and weeks; all of it will be ignored or denounced by the media. People will investigate to see if the stated number of wounded actually arrived at area hospitals, for example. And, of course, heterosexual White males are the favorite whipping boys of the elites (most of whom are White males), but elderly White males almost never shoot anyone, and no motive has yet been invented for the patsy, who was apparently shot dead by the FBI Hostage Rescue Team (according to one account…the story keeps changing) before he could talk.
The misnamed HRT, by the way, were the brave “heroes” at Waco. But I want to talk about one simple fact: it is impossible for one man, even with multiple full auto weapons, to hit nearly 600 people. Not difficult…impossible, rather like three steel-framed buildings collapsing straight down in their own footprints.
Even trained marksmen, especially firing on full auto, will fire many rounds before hitting an enemy soldier. Theoretically, if a mass of people are packed tightly together, maybe half the rounds might connect…maybe. That would be 1,200 rounds. Firing full auto at a cyclic rate of 600 rounds per minute, that would take two minutes.
But submachine guns and assault rifles carry 20 to 30 round magazines, and the shooter (Stephen Paddock was not a trained soldier) would have to pick up new weapons and change magazines (some 40 magazines would be required) and reacquire his targets each time. So, at a minimum, he would need two and a half to three minutes to do the job, probably longer.
But the crowd, although they failed to react for a few seconds, began running away and scattering. At the absolute most, Paddock might have managed to hit 50-100 people while they were packed together. Once they were even partly spread out, he would be lucky to hit one person for every five to ten rounds, during which time the crowd almost completely dispersed or took cover. So, at the absolute most, Paddock might have managed to kill or wound, say, 200 people, and probably far fewer.
Then there are the lurid accounts of bodies almost torn apart by “high powered rifle rounds.” I looked at the pictures, and the range appeared to be at least 150-200 yards; the local sheriff, who was on the scene, estimated 500 yards.
This is important, because one early report (again, the story keeps changing) claimed that Paddock used an Uzi submachine gun. These fire nine millimeter pistol rounds with a max effective range of about 100 yards. Even at that range they would not do nearly as much damage as claimed.
Editor: This is fairly accurate – What is the distance a bullet from a AK 47 can travel?
To answer this question we must first figure out what you are actually asking- are you really asking about the effective range of the AK platform when used with the issue cartridge, or are you asking about the cartridge it Commonly shoots. These are related but different.
The absolute range of a bullet has very little to do with the bullet launching platform, and very much to do with the basic characteristics of the CARTRIDGE, in the case the 7.62×39 SKS cartridge . It will have about the same range when fired from an AK as it will when fired from an AR platform , a Ruger Mini-30 or a Mauser Model 98 . The big variations in performance will come with variations in barrel length.
The EFFECTIVE range of a given weapon is an expression based on the distance at which an average trained shooter (50th percentile) can expect to make 50% hits on a man-torso sized target. This is a descriptor of the entire weapon system- cartridge, firearm, and sight system, and thus may vary significantly from platform to platform and also may be greatly influenced by type and quality of sighting systems.
When the 7.62 x 39 SKS is fired in a typical issue AK-47 orAKM , the maximum effective range is about 350- 400 metres. The significant reasons are two fold- the welded sheet metal frame flexes as the weapon fires, creating random variables in barrel vibration and position as the bullet leaves the barrel ( dispersion) and the sights frankly Are intended for the precision level of a trained monkey. Maximum effective range is the distance at which the weapon system -cartridge combination has any utility.
If some fool started firing at a US Platoon from 400 yards away with an AK, they likely wouldn’t even duck , but he would be killed by aimed fire in short order.
If you simply want to know how far a 7.62 SKS propels a bullet, I note that a standard ballistic chart shows the 7.62 x 39 SKS with a issue 123 grain bullet at 2350 feet per second muzZoe velocity shows a drop of 83 feet at 1000 yards starting from a 100 yard zero. With a 1000 yard zero, drop at 1500 yards is 124 feet.
At a departure angle of 33 degrees , 7.62 SKS 123 grain bullet with a ballistic coefficient of .225 achieved a flight distance of about 2600 yards, so maximum range is about that depending on departure angle. This is not actually very useful information unless you are designing a firing range and are trying to calculate the theoretical down range danger zone-I include it here to cover all the bases.
I hope this information is enough to answer the question.
The maximum effective(useful) range of the 7.62×39 round is generally considered to be 400 yards / 400 meters.
According to ballistic charts, a typical 7.62×39 bullet would travel well beyond 1000 yards given an un-obstructed trajectory. However, at that range the bullet would be going pretty slow and it would be impossible to hit anything accurately.
400 meters is the maximum range at which ANY reasonably decent shooter can expect to have ANY chance of hitting a soldier sized target with ANY standard issue AK-47 and standard issue ammo.
Okay, suppose he used a weapon from the AR-15 family, modified to fire full auto. At 150 or so yards that could do some fairly serious damage with its .223 rounds, but at 500 yards it might be lethal, but just barely.
To hit 600 people would require either a LARGE team with full auto assault rifles, or two men firing belt fed machine guns. Most likely the death toll and number of wounded were wildly exaggerated by the authorities.
Crisis actors may have been used (this is what probably happened in Boston and at the Sandy Hook school). It is possible that no one was killed, except the patsy. He and Lee Harvey Oswald will tell no tales.
Of course, leftists like Hillary the Witch immediately, like the vultures they are, called for more “gun control,” despite the fact that the weapons allegedly used are already illegal. She probably had her statement prepared in advance, before the alleged shooting. Perhaps “gun control” would have saved Vince Foster, Mary Mahoney and her co-workers, etc., etc. I’ll leave it to others to piece the rest of the real story together. And they will. From Mac Slavo over at SHTFPlan.:
ISIS and Antifa have both claimed responsibility for this shooting, however, it doesn’t appear that either of those can be validated at this time. Without a motive, many have been left pondering the possibility of this being a false flag.
Keep in mind, the definition of a false flag does not mean that the incident never happened. It means blame is being shifted to someone else for the atrocity. False flag operations are covert operations conducted by governments, corporations, or other organizations, which are designed to deceive the public in such a way that the operations appear as if they are being carried out by other entities.
Not all is as it seems with this shooting. Many things are out of place and the evidence that someone is covering up the real motives for this is compounding.
The Courier Mail reported as well that one Australian man staying at the Mandalay Bay Resort has spoken about his close call with the Las Vegas gunman – claiming he launched his murderous attack from the room next door.
Australian Brian Hodge, who previously worked at Jupiters Casino on the Gold Coast, claimed he was staying in the room next to the shooter on level 32 at the Las Vegas resort.
He said he managed to escape the initial horrific scenes inside the hotel but found himself forced to hide in a bush for several hours after the event.
“I got outside safely and was hiding in bushes,” Mr Hodge said.
“There were multiple people dead and multiple shooters. I was just hiding waiting for police to come get us.
“We were hiding in the bushes outside waiting for the police.” Mr Hodge said he was staying in room 32134 while the gunman was in room 32135.
“It was a machine gun from the room next to me,” he said.
“My floor is a crime scene. They killed a security guard on my floor.”
Surfers Paradise Ultra Lounge bar co-owner Nathan Claridge, a globetrotting MC for the Vegas-based Thunder from Down Under male revue, posted video from the near the scene soon after the shooting started.
The 32-year-old had just left work from a nearby hotel when he came across people diving for cover and running from away from what sounded like machine gun fire which could be heard in the background.
Mr Claridge, who said he shot video of the pandemonium from a car he was a passenger in, said initially it was difficult to pinpoint where the gunfire was.
He can be heard in the video saying: “Yo, what’s doing up there? Yo, where is that coming from?
“What the f..k?”
A voice can then be heard saying: “Holy s..t…gunfire down there…f..k.”
Mr Claridge posted the video to Facebook with the status saying: “Stay off the (Vegas) strip – leaving work in Vegas, multiple shooters up near Mandalay Bay at country music festival.”
Speaking to the Gold Coast Bulletin after getting safely back to his accommodation several miles away, he said: “I have never been involved in something like that before. It was nuts.
“It was surreal, it was like ‘Is this really happening?’.”
Additional reporting Ryan Keen, Sally Coates